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Here’s The Scoop…CIC Old fashioned Town Hall Meeting 9/21/08

THE CIC Old FASHIONED TOWN HALL MEETING….WAS A CIC MEETING….just in Jarvis Hall….

So the format was correct….

approximate attendance…30 CIC members/ 11 non-members…including this writer/Judy Vik..reporter for the Pelican

a horseshoe seating arrangement with the Commissioner seated at a table in front where the podium is usually placed…festively decorated…with deserts and beverages…microphones were provided for the speakers…and the CIC did record the event….with their Secretary’s video camera along with camera shots by CIC member/Town Photographer Marc Furth…

The meeting was opened with the Pledge…followed by an opening from CIC Chair Cristie Furth….who acknowledged the one commissioner at a time CIC format being used…and the possibility of another forum next time…

She broke for a “commercial break”…as she called it…to tout the CIC organization..200 families strong…(although it is members…not families)…and asked for the CIC members to raise their hands which really showed that this was a CIC event…with mostly CIC members seated in the hall….she went on to offer up an invitation to those who may want to join the CIC with applications available…

from there she spoke of the events the CIC has put on …Easter/4th of July and the upcoming Halloween event….

Master of Ceremonies were CIC Secretary Bob Roberts and his wife Adrienne …with Bob announcing “our job is to maintain order”….

Adrienne went on to talk about the decorum code…to be polite…any foul language would not be permitted….each Commissioner would have an opening time to speak…. take questions…and closing statements…1 question each…with 2nd questions if time allows…

BCbythesea…unfortunately it did not quite work out this way…with many instances of multiple questions…follow-up questions…interchanges from the audience….but never out of control…

The first up…Commissioner Clottey..

She thanked the CIC…spoke of the last 6 months being interesting and enjoyable…meeting everyone..emphasizing she represents everyone in Town…she spoke of the VFD…no more Oriana type buildings…the Overlay will need to be re-evaluated…of A1A being revitalized….to be in tune with what residents want …neighborhood compatible…reducing the debt $3 million…the millage below 4 points…national financial markets…concerns to those on fixed incomes…the great job the Town Manager is doing…the lean proposed budget…paying less for VFD/AMR….criticism over the new purchased property…her initial dislike for the acquisition…discussion with the Town Manager…the sale of the warehouse…and her change to supporting it…with talk of how it could always be sold in the future if need be…for a Town complex…which she feels is not feasible at the present time due to rising construction costs…lack of grant money available after all the bailouts…finishing up with beach access ..a priority of hers …not forgotten…as she is working on a different…equitable model with the Town to find a solution..

Questions….answers….

Questions…. the VFD …their training VS the BSO for seniors…in high rises…Dogs…the doggy beach…pit bulls….Overlay Districts…parking permits….

Answers…responded that professional firefighters are required to have less schooling then a beautician or nail technician….the VFD will do excellent job from what she has seen…construction of new condos…offer added safety …BSO offered a false sense of security…that no firetrucks can enter the driveway areas of some of the north end condos without the truck falling through to their garages below…that fires are not put out with ladders…. neither provider has ladders going 15 stories high……or hoses used in high rises for upper floors…it is done with man-power 2- 3 firefighters going in on the floor above…floor below as in 9/11…She did not vote for the doggy beach …and did not know if it would come up again…would vote against it again…thought something should be done about pit bulls…but did not think it was allowed…per discussions with the Manager and BSO police chief…complaints about pit bulls should be made to BSO police….Overlay Districts were taken away by the Commission….does not mean they cannot come back…need to be looked at…and let the people vote rather than 3 Commissioners ….they can always come before the variance board…talked of spot zoning….Parking was not on the agenda…had spoken to Manager about who parks where for the beach…

Before closing she corrected the Chair…on Halloween to say it was a Town sponsored event with the CIC…not wanting any negative phone calls about the funding approved…

Closing….enjoyed talking to the attendees…will never vote for the dog beach….more citizen input into construction in town…call her….finishing up with assuring all those…she does her homework…is prepared on the dais…asked questions for the benefit of the residents…that she already knows the answers to….

Vice Mayor McIntee….

He came in with “a great story”…”happened 31/2 hours ago”….working the beach on the ATVs….there was a distraught mother …immigrant family looking for 2 hours for their 14 year old son…he thought he might have drowned….he went a little further north up the beach…and found the 14 year old walking down the beach…asked him if he was J.D….and told him kiddingly he was in trouble…put him on the ATV and brought him back…BSO had helicopters…looking for him….”the $40 thousand were the best investment this town made”….spoke of the cheers from people for the VFD…the cookies being offered to the VFD ATV patrol….Town is pro-active …helped some kids out of the water…with Manowar stings…spoke of the “worst death” the recent double drownings …previous post…wrong on thee facts…from North Dakota…not North Carolina…followed up by stating people want to donate to the VFD…VFD takes over 12am Oct.1st…BSO leaves 8am Oct. 1st…..”VFD will be watched like hawks”…describe BSO going to the Fountainhead Condo…breaking down doors…Fountainhead called VFD…to complain…and Jerry explained it was not them…although if there was a fire VFD would break it down also…mistakes happen…spoke of wars basically over…some agitators…HMMM….AMR…their employees…numbers…experience…stating they “will lose money to work here”….that we have the “best accommodations for them”…meaning the new public safety complex…went over a 911-AMR-VFD response scenario…that a VFD fire truck will follow every AMR call with 3-6 on board…BELL RANG….

Questions…answers…

Questions….. explain the EMT being at Holy Cross….AMR response…VFD who will respond…who can leave their jobs….why AMR needs beds…training of FF1 and FF2…parking permits….savings with no BSO…lifeguards…flags on the beach….ATVs…how many FF2s….

Answers….explained AMR will call bridge tender… respond in town with the in town ambulance and VFD trucks…to transport….50 associates 8-9 guys always in town…2-3 24/7 with no pay…firefighter must stay active to stay certified…need for beds…rest…compared BSO costs and their time resting…talked of Jenne…unions…LBTS has 1 fire a year 3 first aid call a day…no need for massive costs…basic trained firefighters are equal…BSO or VFD….explained hours 160 for FF1/300 for FF2…described Broward Hazmat…http://www.flcities.com/legislative/best_practices_ac.asp provided…mutual aid…and “a million things a non-certified guy can do” to protect the until hazmat comes in….everyone is a first responder 50-60 are EMT certified…..(49 listed)….will put parking permits on agenda…thought it was a great idea…lifeguards and flags on the beach a legal liability….using megaphones pro-active …have saved $2 million with getting rid of BSO….ATVs will be reachable by phone to be on channel 78 on the 1st…GPS to follow the ATVs and call to alert them…call 911 first…”high rises backing us more than we ever thought”….pre-plan of every business is in place….half of VFD is FF2…(52 listed)…

Closing….”great format”….more ideas wanted from residents….peace coming from the north and the south…”always the agitators”…HMMM….”star of this town Esther Colon”….

Tom Carr…CIC Treasures/VFD Fire truck driver….spoke of VFD fire trucks combing the streets on Saturday 9/27…familiarizing themselves…and of an Oct. 1st blessing …show of support at the fire station…

BREAK….

Mayor Minnet…

She thanked all for coming….presented her platform…respect and civility…getting business done….working together…the budget…reducing taxes…accomplishments…her Adopt-A- Street program…the 1st annual LBTS October Green fest on Oct. 4th…paint give-away…recycling old paint…electronics accepted for disposal by Waste management…9-noon….the Calypso project…and 5-0 vote for a Resolution joining Pompano and Fort Lauderdale…

Questions and answers….

Questions….no lights on El Mar./ Seagrape ……VFD lack of support…ATV lack of support….lifeguards…doggy beach…pavillon….Oriana….Minto sidewalks…

Answers….alternative lighting on El Mar…turtle friendly…that their are easy retrofits available…change orders were addressed at last meeting on Seagrape…VFD…she voted 5-0 for them…ATVs against …due to liability …not the best way to protect the beaches…wants lifeguards…but is working on the county to provide them….Minto sidewalks were answered …due to reconfiguring back to 2 lanes…did not support doggy beach…told residents to call the other Commissioners…

BCbythesea…Maureen McIntee corrected the Mayor that only one member of the dais voted for the doggy beach..so don’t call the others….REALLY?…

Actually this year in 2008…the 1st vote was 3-2…McInttee/Silverstone/Dodd …for it…Clottey/ Minnet against…2nd meeting in 2008…4-1 Dodd was the only one for it…

Previous post…in 2006 the original backer for the dog beach and the one who encouraged it be put back on in 2008…Maureen McIntees’s husband…the Vice Mayor…YEP!….

This writer did speak up to inform all those who are still hearing misinformation….Commissioner Dodd is not going to bring back the doggy beach….he just wanted the 1st Town Topics straw poll to be on the doggy beach to see the response….

This all could have been avoided if the Vice Mayor and Town staff let it be known what transpired 2 years ago after Commissioner McIntee tried unsuccessfully to fulfill HIS doggy beach campaign promise!….YIKES!

More answers…Oriana no answer to the $1 million dollar escrow question…the pavilion…is set to start…no answer to the time of year…season and no information from the Town to the businesses…will check with staff….

Closing was a brief thank you…

Commissioner Silverstone….

Said he would “make this quick”….what he has encountered as a Commissioner…Halloween event sponsored tables available $35 for businesses…$25 for persons…candy provided…everyone welcome…proud of what he has accomplished…been here for 23 years….coached basketball….and continuing to do so….the Mission Statement he wrote…online on the website…transparency ….videos online to see for yourself…instead of rumors….annexation slowly coming together..same goals…small town village…

Questions…answers…

Questions….VFD…ATVs…pier parking fenced in….dogs with no leashes…Oriana pedestrian walkway….lights on El Mar….flags…lifeguards…savings of no BSO….pitbulls… fire station that was promised….

Answers….will go to Esther about pier parking lot fence……(property owned by Athena)…said such questions should go to the Town first…and to come to him for Resolutions/Ordinances….call BSO for dogs off leashes…(think that is a code call)….as he said it was in the LBTS code …dogs need to be leashed….site plan for Oriana will be honored…talked of the 5 feet over by Oriana found by a citizen calling it in…BEFORE he was a Commissioner…(he was a Commissioner…and it was called in to McIntee by Nancee Nixon)….went to league of Cities…talked of turtle friendly lights….just like LED lights recently installed in Jarvis Hall…(please go back to the old lights…Commissioners are “ghostly” with new ones)….spoke of previous plans and attempts to get lifeguards and flags on the beach…pit bulls…could have Ordinance…as Fort Lauderdale has…….saved $1.8 million with no BSO…although the BCbythesea hubby reminded him of the purchase of the hotel…as a gentleman seated behind him…added the parking lot…the Commissioner responded the “first question he asked Esther …What we need to operate as a town”…talked of the warehouse…breaking even with the sale…responded to fire station promised by Jenne…saying it was to come from Broward County not BSO…(always heard it was BSO)

Closing….

Call the Town to complain….”starts the ball rolling”….interesting 2 years…”not sure I’m running again”….get the correct information…better information….rumors…here-say….maybe it used to be that way…complain …get angry about something….”I didn’t think I was going to win”….kept his campaign promises…every Commiissioner should have a report card…proud to be a Commissioner in this town….

A CIC member asked the Chair of the CIC if she was going to read a letter from Commissioner Dodd that she understood he sent to the Board to be read at this meeting…

The CIC Chair Cristie Furth said “no”…

BCbythesea…the CIC Chair and the CIC Board did not follow through with a request made by a sitting Commissioner…or follow through when it was asked for by a constituent….WOW!…

CIC Chair asked if the audience liked the format used…and received an overwhelming show of the affirmative…

Of course being CIC members…this is their CIC standard forum….so it was a shoe in……

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