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Here’s The Scoop … 7/14/09 LBTS Commission Meeting … #3 …. Making A Detour?…

COMMISSIONER SILVERSTONE TOOK A DETOUR….

Dear Readers …Here’s the rest of the 7/14/09 Consent Agenda item A. exchange …(prev. post Waives….below &  LBTS agenda & scoops cat.)…..

Mayor- ” We still haven’t approved this special event permit, so there’s still a special event permit by the Athena for Sat. October 31st til November 1st 2009 to 11 pm.”

Comm. Silverstone- ” I just have a question I notice that the representatives from Village Pub and Grill , You guys have any thoughts about this? Is that why you’re here or …”

Mayor- ” Well I would ask as Chair of this um, since the representatives of the actual event itself are here, why don’t we both have them speak?”

CS-” Well, I have the floor.”

Mayor- ” I am the Chair”:….APPLAUSE!….” If you want to recognize them would you like to go through me?”

CS- ” Fine , whatever you want to do.” …

BC- Comm. Silverstone was miffed!…

Mayor- ” Mr. Marchelos I will recognize you and then I will recognize whatever questions Commissioner Silverstone has for Mr. Gadsby.”

BC- As Mr. Marchelos walks the the podium VM McIntee still had his mike on and looks at the Manager and say “Ah, nothing!”…OOPS!…

Louis Marchelos- ” With all these code fees I, personally would be willing that if BSO does come out and tells us to stop it and if we don’t you just void our permit for the whole year for anything I ever do, cause the past year we’ve never had a problem. So if that’s what the Town Manager wants to do. Don’t charge us for these code fees, if we do have a complaint and do not stop it we’ll just terminate the whole event and I won’t do an event, not forever but hopefully you could penalize me for a year or two years.”

BC- The crowd told him no….not trusting the “Gang” and how they would use such an offer to cause them (Marchelos) more grief!…

LM- ” OK, well anyway we’re here to work together um, this event is taking place on Saturday and Sunday during the craft show. The street is closed during the craft show ah, basically our parking lot that evening is basically dead because there’s no cars traveling up because of the craft show. I did speak with the Chamber and I asked would it be a conflict if we would do this event and they sent a letter in and said no. I spoke with Mr. Gadsby, but I’ll let him speak and ah, thank you.”

Vice Mayor McIntee- ” Wait a minute, I have a question. Mr. Marchelos there is no charge nor have you been charged for having any town personnel there. What the Town Manager said is the only time you will be charged is if the Sheriff went to the scene and you didn’t respect his wishes and they had to call somebody in. You have confirmed that won’t happen so you’ll never be charged.”

BC- The VM was still trying to skew the motion that just failed made by Comm. Dodd concerning “waiving” the personnel “presence” reimbursement required in this permit …YIKES!

LM- ” OK, but we’ve been informed by Town staff when they’ve come at night and they’ve told me we have to be here for four hours, it’s a minimum of three hours, double time and you will be billed, you will be billed.”

VM- ” Have you been billed?”

LM- ” Ah, this just started about a month ago a month and a half ago and they said we will be billed.”

VM- ” Who is they? What person?”

LM- ” Town staff.”

VM- ” Who?’

LM- ” I am not gonna talk right now and get the person in trouble and get fired”….APPLAUSE!…”But the bottom line is that when they said we will be billed for coming out I think that’s unfair and they were there Friday night during Dave’s event , they were there this past Saturday night and we’ve done nothing wrong and you know I look at the paper and the Galt Ocean, 33rd street every Sunday night six to ten I see the Bahia Mars 78 thousand dollar event so…”

BC- The Mayor said Comm. Clottey had a question…CLUELESS CLOTTEY ALERT!…

CC- ” Yes, Mr Marchelos um, sometimes when people get excited they don’t hear what a person is saying and I have a feeling this is what I’m hearing from you.”

BC- The person not hearing or comprehending…is the commissioner herself!..It gets worse!…

CC- ” The Town Manager has said and we’ve also talked to the police chief and he said that if somebody complains about you the police will come there first and if you do what the police ask you to do whatever it is, there, you will not pay anything. Only if you refuse to do what the police as you will there be any charge for a code enforcement officer. So if you have the Town Manager and you say something publicly in a commission meeting I think that overrides anything else that somebody else has told you.”

BC- No comment is necessary…to surmise this is crazy to actually believe it is….well?…It gets worse…read on….

LM- ” Um, Commissioner Clottey on the permit we sign every Saturday night there is a line in the middle of that page that says we will be charged for fees UNLESS this commission waives it. That’s what it says, so that’s why I am up here. UNLESS this commission waives it they could charge us!”

BC- TOUCHDOWN!…

CC- ” If you do not abide by the police.”

BC- She did NOT read the permit!…

LM- ” It does not say that! It does not say that! Let’s be factual.”

CC- ” Let’s wait , if you do get charged , come back and this commission will take care of it.because I don’t believe you will be.”

LM- ” I got your word on that?”

CC- ” You have my word.”

LM- ” Thank you.”

BC- WOW!…Rather than to vote to waive the fees …Comm. Clottey acted just like VM McIntee acted when he recently told Dave Gadsby to come to the comm. and tell them if he [Dave] couldn’t pay for fees to use the street…when that issue was discussed…We now have a commission of GODFATHERS!….. What about following the laws of the town?…Hmmm…

The Mayor called Mr. Gadsby…

Comm. Silverstone- ” Oh, first of all Dave, I need to talk to you about this. I see you back there. I don’t know if you want to say anything, you don’t have to to say anything at all. I’m inviting you up in case you did want to speak on it. So, I’m not putting you on the spot or anything so…”

BC- Spit it out Jimmy…

Dave Gadsby came and said the event did not affect his business…he was not involved with it…he had no issue with it and would answer any questions.

CS- ” I do have something else, I still have the floor. The Halloween, the Town’s Halloween party is also on Saturday night the 31st and normally what the town has done is trick or treat the kids through the downtown area and all the restaurants and shops.”

BC- The full audience decried the assertions as false!…This had not been done in years…

CS- ” That , that may be planned. It’s been planned. Historically it’s been done that way. If we decide no to do that I don’t have a horse in this race, but I’m just bringing it up as a point of information. If whoever is gonna do Halloween needs to be aware of that um, um, but I don’t, I don’t really have an issue with it. I yield.”

BC- He was covering all the Furth bases…

The Mayor said the Vice Mayor had a question…

VM- ” I, I there was discussion and it was said 2 day events were not gonna be allowed and we were not going to have any events that competed with a town wide event and Halloween ah, is the night Saturday night. I have zero problem with giving them permission to set u on Saturday and go all day on Sunday, but it’s a townwide event the Halloween and we probably draw a couple thousand people Halloween maybe 1000 to 2000 and that’s alot of kids, alot of parking and I have zero problem with oking a setup on Saturday and an all day party on Sunday. But not a 2 day party because it’s a townwide event and we’re not oking 2 day events.Well in all fairness because we ALL decided I think it was unanimous that if there was a townwide event.”

Comm. Dodd “NO!”

VM- ” If it was a townwide event we would not compete with a townwide event. But again, I’ll support setting up and the next day he can have it but ah, not a 2 day event.”

BC- Do the ” Gang” have messages coming in behind the dais from Town Hall East?…

CD- ” Can I make a point of information? I guess you mean SOME 2 day events because correct me if I’m wrong , isn’t the craft show a 2 day event?”

BC- Don’t skip this response from the VM…

VM- “That’s not what I’m saying at all Commissioner Dodd, you’re, you’re filibustering! What I’m saying the craft show is over at 5 o’clock. The children’s event is the second night (OOPS!…2nd night is Sun!) the craft is not a, a that the craft is a beneficial for the whole southern part of Florida it’s ah, set up for ah, it’s a history. “…LAUGHTER!…”But, it doesn’t compete with a townwide event. Townwide events at night, the craft is during the day.”

BC- The Vice Mayor took a nose dive on this one…big time…and the Chamber should make sure at budget time to bring these words of how “beneficial” they are …how “historical” they are to the “whole southern part of Florida” they are when the VM votes to cut their funds!…

Mayor- ” OK, excuse me, first of all historically the, I’ve been in town a long time. I don’t recall ever having trick or treating down in downtown. The event is held up here at Jarvis Hall which really would not interfere with anything that is supposed to bring business and bring everyone to town so that it will bring money to the town bring everything we want to achieve so I, don’t understand the thought process going on here that we would deny this applicant something that is for our community. Um, so I would respectfully ask that you think about this and vote accordingly”…APPLAUSE!…

BC- This is why folks,  if we see a re-match in 2010…Minnet VS Peanuts Wick…voters should  see on tape these 2 sitting in that center dais seat…( Peanuts is P & Z Chair) and the outcome definitely is gurarnteed  same…Thank goodness!…

The Mayor and the Vice Mayor went back and forth about parking with the Mayor asking where people parked for 4th of July and saying she was sure we would be able to handle it….She should make note with 1000-2000 coming for the Halloween party…better line up the port-a-potties…Jarvis Hall bathrooms are not easily accessible due to the haunted house!…

The Mayor acknowledged the motion made Comm. Dodd…2nd by Comm. Silverstone for discussion and asked for a motion for approval for the event…Comm. Dodd said “So moved.”…the Mayor again handed the gavel over to the Vice Mayor to be the 2nd …(again he had no mike on and hit the gavel down)…

VM- ” Motion for approval seconded by the TOWN MANAGER”…(OOPS!)…LAUGHTER!…” excuse me the Mayor, no discussion, call for the vote.”

BC- We all watched waiting for the expected 3-2 …BUT surprise, surprise…Commissioner Silverstone took a detour and voted to allow the 2 day event for Athena…He was roundly applauded for his independence!…

But…remember….he is on the prevailing side…and if he was “Furthed” after the meeting…he can bring it back to join the “Gang” once more!…Time will tell!

More to come….

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