Here’s The Scoop….5/26-27 2009…LBTS Commission Meeting …#6….Commissioner Comments…Pure Cock and Bull….
May 31, 2009 by Barbara
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS….
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Dear Readers…This writer will post the 5/27/09 Commissioner Comments out of sequence in order to show the ” COCK- and- BULL stories “… that came from the “BROOM BOYS” on the dais……
Commissioner Silverstone…”Thank you Mayor, I just want to first start out by um, saying that the meeting we had yesterday was very ah, displeasing to me. It seems like the same people who um, have preached to us the need to get along and unite the town are ah, the same ones that seem to be busy um, disturbing of these meetings. And um, what happened yesterday was an example of this and um, what I will do from this point on if I feel the meeting is gonna be, is being interrupted will call for a point of order and hopefully that will cease the um, interruptions that are being caused because I, we’re not getting the business of ah, the Town done here.”
BC- Highly suspect this “point of order” as it comes again from his BFF VM McIntee… Comm. Silverstone may want to take a look at what caused this disturbance…take a look to his left to Comm. Clottey who has lost her ability to “filter” what is being “spoon fed” to her by her mentor putting forth an “ethnic slur” towards the Marchelos brothers standing before her addressing a special event permit they placed on the agenda for July 4th & 5th…Comm. Clottey also revealed private information about their lease on the pier…opening the Town up to a possible lawsuit…So for these applicants to react was totally understandable…as it was repugnant to hear and watch such an obvious planned attack upon these two!…
Comm. Silverstone…”Um, I do have a comment regarding the ah, Bert Harris issue. Um, these are mine personal ah, thoughts regarding this um, this ah, very important issue which was placed before us, before I ran ah, for ah, a seat up here. The Bert J. Harris act was done because of a loophole in the law. But what happened was the way I understand it, I’m not a lawyer but Mr. Harris was, I think a Senator in the state of Florida. He owned a bunch of farmland and found out some government entities were in fact um, changing the laws devaluing the properties that they wanted to buy and then in effect using eminent domain to buy some of these properties at a greatly reduced value. Um, and because of that loophole the, the state of Florida started to protect these landowners from um, the devaluation, artificial devaluations. These properties because um, of an action by a government entity to, to make them more to get a better price and buy these areas. What’s before us, I believe is a loophole that the developers have found and some property owners um, to say that because of a government change in the laws there’s a projected loss. Um, on these properties and I think both are equally unjust the um, both the four Bert Harris J, Bert J. Harris acts have started lwasuits starting in 2006 um, that’s causing a lot of um, unnecessary I think um, issues regarding the fear factor of the lawsuits and the costs that’s gonna be and so forth. But at the end of the day um, the way I try, I rationalize this and the reasoning I’m using is if they’re found to be true then everybody in the state of Florida who owns property that has at the time of ownership there was any laws changed would then have a potential lawsuit. If I own a home and I have a two story heighth ( he said heighth) limit at one time there was no heighth limit at one time before zoning laws took an effect I could build whatever I wanted to. In effect everybody would have an equal chance of suing ah, all the governments (he said plural). Of course, it’s not gonna happen. Because we’re basing this on a projected loss and because I think the lawsuits that are, that are out there are not based upon any plans to build or people have not bought these properties with the intent to change it um, as well as if I bought a home here, if I was in the process of buying something to build say fifteen stories and once I bought it the government changed the rules on me ah, then I think I would have ah, a suit. I would have a case here. And that’s why the Bert J. Harris act was placed before the state of Florida to protect those people. But the people who do not have any, any plans to build or any, any um, any um, investment back um, projections um, to do so I, I think this issue is going to be found um, ah, unfulfilled. Um, anyway so, I wrote an article about this or I helped write an article (which is it?) about this in the local By The Sea Times. I hope that ah, people read it because I think I made a good point there. But I think the logic, I don’t think there’s really much to worry about there.”
BC- Why didn’t Jimmy-boy follow Comm. Clottey’s lead when she spoke before him saying she would not comment on this “important issue” leaving it to the Town Atty. because she had “no desire to put the Town at risk.”…Why didn’t the Town Atty. direct all the Commissioners to refrain from commenting on this litigation from the dais (with the Defendant’s court reporter seated in the front row ) and in local paper?…Even Norm Crosby would have shut his mouth!…YIKES!…
Comm. Silverstone…finished up by thanking Marc and Crisite Furth and the volunteers who have helped with the July 4th planning…(previous post only 1 meeting posted on the board in Town Hall/Jarvis Hall to limit the public from attending)…and he went on to challenge the naysayers to call him, Moe McIntee or Marc Furth to prove themselves by volunteering for the event……
BC- as stated before…. secretive meetings where all the planning was done…no input on the fireworks display…with suspect fire display RFPs…and announcing this as a CIC/VFD event…which all know is the kick-off the the “BROOM-BOYS” re-election…does not make it an attractive offer to contact the perpetrators of this event!…
BC- As you read the Vice Mayor’s comments…you are safe to laugh out loud from the comfort of your home…but beware laughing will be outlawed soon in Jarvis Hall…Seems the VM is a little “thin skinned” these days…
VM McIntee…” Ah, yesterday the meeting was an absolute disaster. Ah, two of the individuals in this ah, room shouted out from the back of the room continually raising their voice. People to my left ah, cackled throughout the whole meeting. We could hear it throughout. That’s gonna have to stop or points of order will be called. We’ll have to overrule the Chair and I hope that the dais will react to it. We cannot run a meeting where there is not control of the audience in a rational manner. But the worst part of what happened yesterday is three individuals went outside and verbally attacked Marc Furth as he was walking in. They called him names, they threatened to destroy his business. They told him they’d have him out of business by March. They said derogatory terms about his mother. They surrounded him. They told him to raise his arms and fight them.It was witnessed by multiple people. It was a disgrace and shows the level of, of unprofessionalism by these people you’re saying we should be kind and gentle to. They attack a resident who was walking into this hall. So,I’m gonna ask Chief Gooding through the Town Manager to detail a man outside this hall from ten to eleven every night that we have a meeting to protect our residents coming and going. No resident, I don’t care what side you’re on north or south should be accosted verbally abused or threatened by anybody.That’s out of line. To yell from the back of the room and to allow that to happen is out of line. When one commissioner asks one person to come up and a second person comes up and nobody says anything and people start talking, attacking the one commissioner that’s out of line. Control has been lost. If we lose control of the meetings we lose control of the government and there’s chaos. And that’s what happened to the meeting last night People are not acting professionally, are not acting like gentleman, are verbally attacking. Way out of line, way out of line. Ah, In the next four or five days I’m gonna make a decision on how to go after this problem, I’m gonna go after it aggressively. The meetings have to, after all we can no longer put up with people laughing every two seconds where everybody in this room can hear it. Our clerk can hear it. They can’t hear us talking because there’s people laughing out there insulting the dais. It has to stop. It just has to stop. What Commissioner Silverstone said about these are the people who want peace. These are the people who want to unite. They don’t want to unite, they’re trying to cause trouble. Can you imagine attacking a businessman walking in? Three people threatening to destroy his business in March. Telling him you’ll be out of here in March. We’re gonna take your business away. Calling him, negative terms about his mother. I mean just outrageous, outrageous. This isn’t the acts of a,a gentleman, this is the acts of bullies , absolute bullies (you’ll need a moment to catch your breath from uncontrollable laughter on this remark!) O.K., so it’s gonna stop. And it’s , it’s going to, it has to stop because this dais has to clean their own house’
BC- Where to start?….The Marc Furth outside “attack”…we hear there were four people standing there and Marc Furth approached them…We hear Marc Furth told the applicants who were just the victims of an ethnic slight from Comm. Clottey and just had private information about their lease divulged when it had nothing to do with their application that they “blew it”…We are told that it was Marc Furth that “baited” them to hit him…We are told that some remarks were made similar to what a would be heard from kids on any street in Buffalo or any borough about someone’s mother …and all that happened was a “he said- he said”….until and unless there is an investigation under oath…BUT this writer can attest to the following…Mrs. Furth walked into the hall and walked calmly to Chief Gooding…We saw Chief Gooding make a call…supposedly to send someone outside…If Marc Furth was in such dire straits…wouldn’t his wife have run and yelled for help?…Wouldn’t the Chief or the deputy in the back of the room hightailed it out of the hall?…HMMM…. And if Marc Furth was so afraid of the Marchelos brothers, then why would he have joined Comm. Silverstone and VM McIntee just forty five minutes before this very meeting where VM McIntee made these comments on the Marchelos’ pier parking lot property?…HMMMM…We hear Spiros Marchelos had to ask a BSO Officer to ask Marc Furth to leave his property after Marc Furth refused to do so on his own and (Marc) said an expletive…(Hardly sounds like Marc was afraid of his “attacker!”)….There was yelling from the back of the room…limited to these very slights and the Commissioner using their lease as an excuse to deny the July 4th & 5th special event permit….There were shouts that can be heard on the video as they left the hall of “Shame on you”…There was laughter in the hall…not throughout…but when the VM was so obviously ignorant on topics he was addressing!….Laughter was kept in check though when the VM spoke this day …hard as it was…when HE was speaking of of gentlemen…control…and bullies!…He must be watching Hugo Chavez too much…thinking he is Chavez lite?….He must also have lost all memory of years 2006 and 2007 and the members of the CIC who shouted, yelled and got riled up into a frenzy with a major assist from then-commissioner McIntee himself!…Pick an archived meeting …any meeting…to verify the facts!…OOPS!…
VM McIntee…”We have worked a lot of hours up here. The average town meeting in Broward County is two hours and forty five minutes. We’re running six to eight hours. Why because we lose control. That’s the bottom line. They’re not controlled. They have to be brought under control. Gavels have to be slammed down on both sides of the dais is out of control, control the dais. If the people are out of control , control the people. But no longer am I gonna sit here and let people yell from the back of the room and not give them a warning. They’re entitled to a warning that I accept. But the warnings gonna be issued. It has to be issued because we have to control. ”
BC- The meetings run hours long due to what we saw again the evening before…the “2-HATS”induced…hours of VFD P.R….such as this unnecessary VFD presentation…VM led personal vendettas such as Greenfest….VM long commentary disputing newspaper articles that do not support him…VM diatribes over whatever suits his fancy..VM parades orchestrated to thwart the mandated Town Manager review in her contract…VM orchestrated P.R. stunts such as Palm Club for the Federal stimulus funds…etc…etc…etc…just check the minutes…the videos…to verify the facts!….Again, yelling from the back of the room…nothing compared to 2006-2007!….A glimmer of hope that the VM realizes a warning is to take place before throwing a citizen out…(the previous evening his BFF Jimmy-boy is on video saying “Throw them out”, no warning offered!…
VM McIntee…” The continued attacks on the Town administration by Commissioner Dodd is unacceptable. It is just not acceptable. Now to say they’re gestapo tactics, folks, we voted on it (the reimbursement for code enforcement to cover special events for noise and head counts), on what he says he knew nothing about. It was 5-0. I know I voted on it and to say they’re doing gestapo. Nobody’s telling them except us, we’re the ones that voted on it.”
BC- The Commission had the noise ordinance on for 1st reading, reimbursement from the businesses was never discussed and it is not in the ordinance. The Commission had a “field trip” ..a workshop, no votes could be taken at a workshop. This memory is more “smoke and mirrors” from McIntee-Colon ala the pavilion changes! OUCH!… It is another nail in the coffin for any future special events if the VM/Town Manager have their way to charge the businesses fees for code enforcement to be required…and to pay for the use of the street!….Gestapo tactics?…may be more like the “Godfather”!…
VM McIntee went on to say that Commissioner Dodd had a complaint about the July 4th meeting in the Public Safety Complex …requiring a 4 page response. He said Comm. Dodd had a meeting in Town Hall and they were the same…
BC- Not so fast…The Manager is on record saying no public meetings of this type were to taker place in the Complex…when she stopped the use for the businesses to meet there for the valet parking meeting…They needed to move it…Comm. Dodd and Comm. Clottey had a full scheduled month of meetings posted well in advance in all in Jarvis Hall with an exception of two…One at the start …due to lack of proper posting, leaving Comm. Clottey to leave…and a second well after many in the hall due to a conflict of hall use!…No comparison…
The Vice Mayor again brought up that the employees are unhappy, moral is low and blamed Comm. Dodd saying they are fed up with him…that he is “abusing them” and they are afraid to come forward…
BC- We hear the same is said of the VM/Dep. Chief within the VFD…abuse and a fear to come forward…We hear the same is said with employees within Town Hall but not of Dodd…of McIntee!…Two times …(By Comms. Dodd/Clottey) the administration has been offered extra help if overwhelmed by backup material requirements….Two times they ( the staff) have said they do not require it…You can’t have it both ways!…Other towns such as Pembroke Pines are contracting out for staff…Bet they would not complain if offered a job in our town…HMMM…
The Mayor was last after McIntee and she gave a big smile and welcomed everyone…She thanked all for being in attendance …that went well into the night the evening before and again this afternoon…She countered a recent article in the Mc-Furth Times about her lack of controlling the meetings, reminding them that there were “multiple meetings to discuss that we do wan to hear from the people”…as she again spoke of the respectful manner required and said “as I have stated many times before it does start from this dais.”….”I have reviewed months of meetings including last night’s meeting for the interruptions from the audience trying to understand where they all began. Needless to say nothing compares to the interruptions from one particular Commissioner (VM McIntee) who over and over again interjects his personal opinion only to benefit his self interests, certainly not the public’s. So pass the gavel (she laughed), don’t make me laugh!”…
BC- THANK YOU MAYOR!
The Mayor went on to inform all of the visit to town from Congressman Ron Klein that coming Friday…along with his schedule…She also brought up the Pelican Hopper route meeting in Jarvis Hall on June 8th from 6-8 pm…imploring participation from the residents…And she finished up with speaking highly of the Spring Concert that took place at the Community Church …looking forward to having more…giving an update on her attendance at a census meeting…and the A1A scenic Highway tour…
Comm. Dodd…gave an update on Hillsboro Inlet…the artificial reef has been completed and the growth of the marine life is being monitored for the next three years…. the actual transformation into a reef is going better than expected….. initial reports are that marine life has moved back in abundance
….The new crane will be arriving at the end of the month. It will allow them to replace a rather old and dilapidated machine that is on it’s last legs
….The RFPs for two new work boats were sent out again with a more detailed specification and further advertising in Marine publications….To date they have had 18 inquiries which goes to re-enforce my personal opinion this municipality should take every opportunity to go out for RFP’s and bids rather than take the easy way out and piggy back or award an extension. “During the previous administration’s tenure I was always frustrated that the commission meeting opened and then all the commissioners disappeared for 45 minutes making the public sit and wait while they held a shade session. I would hope we can reach an agreement to start any shade sessions at say 6.00 before the main meeting or some other convenient time so as not to make the public wait. Now that it is official that the Palm Club has filed a law suite against the town I hope the town staff and all the commissioners will treat the Palm Club residents with respect and not take the attitude that you can only speak to me through my attorney. The Marcello’s brothers are trying to defend their pier sign and only that issue should be referred to attorneys when discussed. I would hope common sense will prevail and all other issues should be discussed freely and openly as it is totally non productive for town staff to speak to the Palm Club or the Marcello brothers on everything through their attorneys just because one single issue has taken on legal ramifications.” “I have had a problem with the unified land code as discussed at the workshop and subsequently by P & Z and want to ask the town attorney to clarify an issue for me.
A lot of everyone’s time was spent discussing a 50% rule for rebuilding following partial destruction of a building under the land code section 30-21. This seems at complete odd with the Charter section 7.1 clause (5) – not withstanding the maximum building height limit established in paragraph (1) above, of this section of the charter, an existing non-conforming building may be replaced by a new non conforming building when, and only when(a) The existing non conforming building has (1) been destroyed by fire, natural disaster, or other act of god ……..To me it looks as if the charter trumps the land regulations and we can’t circumvent the clauses in the charter with ordinances. Nothing in the Charter talks about 50% so why was there any discussion at all about loosing one’s grandfathered rights and having to rebuild to today’s current code. If we had adopted the 50% clause then wouldn’t that have been illegal?
If this assessment is correct can I respectfully ask the town attorney to jump in at anytime if you feel we are wandering off course.”
BC- The Town Atty. gave no response…
Comm. Dodd…”I was appalled at the new policy invented by the town administration that has not been approved by this commissioner. To charge businesses to check for possible infringements of the noise ordinance or the number of people present at street events before there has been a complaint smacks “Gestapo tactics’. What next – Charge businesses for their sidewalk café inspection. Charge residents for checking on garden sheds? Send bills out for any and every code inspection. Where does it end ? Yet we don’t have enough code people to spot Sea Lord or the construction on Seagrape where their driveways are flooding our streets. Code is there to be enforced when we have a problem since we are not a police state the last time I looked. We live in a town and not a condo association with the corresponding condo commanders although at times I could be excused for being confused. Lastly I’m again saddened by members of this dais‘s treatment of one business in town – I ask again “where is the conflict with Athena holding an event in the evening of July 4th since the town’s Car show and festivities finishes at 5 p.m. all but for the fireworks. It seems apparent to me that three commissioners are trying very hard to kill the street events in town for no justifiable reason other than a personal vendetta and unfortunately it will take the businesses and the town a long time to recover – if ever to build back this thriving community after they are voted out of power for their actions. It ain’t broke, there haven’t been many complaints so why are you messing with it.”
Comm. Clottey …who began the comments…saying her comments would be brief tonight (HUH? Wed. 4:30 pm) First she thanked all those who have served ….She stated ” I will refrain from speaking on several important matters because I believe direction on some issues must come from our Town Attorney and I have no desire to put the Town at risk…. She then thanked all who braved the rain and attended the Spring Concert and also thanked the Garden Club…
more to come…as we see what the Mc-Furth Gang comes up with to control the Town…
