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Here’s The Scoop … The Oct. 26, 2010 Lauderdale-By-The-Sea Roundtable Meeting … Finding The Perameters …

P- A- R- A- M- E- T- E- R- S  IS WORTH HOW MANY POINTS …. MADE/NOT MADE …

Dear Readers …  last night was the first Commission Roundtable that stood alone rather than coming after a Regular Commission meeting.. The common thread for this one was parameters…both big and small… on everything from the Town’s vision…having a strategic plan to the parameters of the roundtable itself… What happened in this writer’s opinion was those parameters fell short and need to be set once again…

The meeting began with the Mayor moving her item on this topic …item e. to the top of the agenda to set the parameters of what the intention of having a roundtable was for and getting everyone on the same page by outlining them…The roundtable she stated as she did at the Oct. 12th Commission Meeting that this Commission meeting/Roundtable was something the Town was trying to see if it complimented the Town and was something the residents…staff and Commission buy in to…offering transparency into the process …She also stated the Commissioners should make the recommendations needed and the direction required to be taken on the cover page of their item to allow a heads- up to the other Commissioners of where they are going with an item  (this was first brought to the Commission by Comm. Sasser at the procedural meetings)……..Comm. Sasser added to that the roundtable should be used to focus in on what they want to accomplish…what’s important and to prioritize items…He was concerned looking at the evening’s agenda it was still piecemealing… He stated the biggest issue was the Master Plan ..and the need to determine what they wanted to accomplish as a team…Comm. Clottey said she thought that was a good idea but they cannot let the majority decide …there was a need for the minority to get something on (the agenda)… Comm. Sasser stuck to his point of wanting an “overarching plan or strategy”…Vice Mayor Dodd reminded them all that due to Sunshine they needed these meetings to see if there was a consensus for staff to go ahead …He had no problem with a full agenda to use it in that fashion …something is a go or not (unfortunately that parameter was a no go this evening)… Comm. Sasser stated a description would help agreeing with the Mayor statement in her opening …but wanted everyone to be in agreement on the game plan..having the same strategy…Comm. Clottey said she did not have a single thing on this agenda because the Town Manager requested that no more be put on…The Mayor chimed in to say this was a work in progress and this was the first month of using this forum…VM Dodd responded to Clottey by stating if she had something to put on…she should put it on…He stated he did not think the resolutions needed to be on …they could be done at Commission meetings but there were no restrictions on putting items on… Comm. Clottey said some things cannot wait…The TAtty. spoke up after the Mayor asked her if she wanted to add anything…Ms. Trevarthen stated her firm were one of the “recommenders” ….and said part of what she heard was to have a strategic plan…and that was not going to happen in the middle of this meeting…She said there were two categories of things..first time or history..preliminary review …worth thinking about…Some items will have a lot to address such as the first reading item (businesses allowed in town) and are on a different level…Some are ideas of where you are going for staff… Comm. Sasser said for the first of many times throughout the meeting he wanted to set a date for those strategic planning meetings…. Comm. Vincent stated he thought they were supposed to take away some ideas (of the Master Plan)… Comm. Sasser continued that the master Plan was part of the strategic plan…that they are not all on the same page…and they need to set things up to make sure they are going in the right direction… Comm. Clottey stated that their job is two-fold …they still have to do their job…and have time to to talk about the bigger plan… Comm. Sasser agreed with that and stated Clottey basically saying the same thing  he was saying…

BC- unfortunately this would continue on throughout the meeting…I will address this ongoing problem and my opinion on the strategic plan…Master Plan and the coordination of it after the item is discussed below ….

Item p. was also moved up by the Mayor and that dealt with reversing the order of the Comm.Mtg and the Roundtable Mtg. due to the public safety providers stating they could not easily provide their reports for the previous month at a meeting held on the second week of the month …and wanted to wait til the month after to do so…VM Dodd put this item on due to the length of time (6 wks) being too big of a span to address the reports…The TM stated there were already published items (Notice of Intent) that required the current set-up for Nov. and possibly Dec… The Mayor stated they should begin the reversal in January (The Mayor also stated she originally wanted it set up RT 2nd Tues/CM 4th Tues)… Comm. Clottey was clueless to VM Dodd’s reasoning for the lag time…but that went by the wayside as Comm. Sasser stated it was cyclical and the Mayor stated Jan. it was…The TM said she would let the providers know…and the meetings would remain the status quo for Nov./Dec. (which are not on the correct weeks anyway due to the holidays)…

With that they began to address the agenda items in the order they were put on… VM Dodd had put on item a. kite surfing…He briefly summarized the history of the kite surfing and why it failed to be acted on with the previous Commission…(prev. posts)… He then stated he was looking to see if there was consensus to move forward and have staff put together a workshop in Jan (after the snow-birds return) to address the issue and allow kite surfers/ and residents especially the condos advance knowledge of the workshop in order for them to participate…

BC- This is where the parameters were supposed to be a simple yea or nay to see consensus for the item…instead it deteriorated into discussion into th the details (and it’s the details that trip you up as the TM told the MPSC last Tues….prev. post)…

Comm. Clottey wanted the local kite surfers to be included and that residents were aware …Comm. Sasser asked about regulating it… Comm. Clottey acting as if she just got on the dais or having a senior moment asked if the two groups could come up with recommendations…(they did in the last go round…written and at the podium)…Comm. Vincent who is making this writer more and more sorry with each successive meeting….said he had a lot to say on this and did not want to take up time…(if only he followed his opening statement…he did not)… He then asked about someone’s teaching permit…He stated he had done extensive work on this and we have to be careful…where it starts…stops and is designated …not to be a NIMBY…that there is a lot here …we don’t want to be premature… (UGH! … I thought he watched all the meetings over the last few years?)… Comm. Sasser tried to follow the correct way to respond to VM Dodd’s item by stating regulate-yes/workshop-yes…to look at it as a whole including fishing/skim-boading (on the agenda item k.)…… Comm. Clottey did not follow suit asking about the teaching and stating our ordinances did not allow it…Comm. Sasser asked who was going to enforce this…Comm. Vincent asked the TAtty. about the teaching…and the TAtty. said when this was discussed last year it was brought up it was unlawful to peddle …which included “services” under uses in a park which covered teaching on the beach…She added it was not illegal but that they stated no one had bought a permit…(That’s not the way this writer remembers it being stated from the dais…we thought it was illegal as Comm. Clottey stated)… The TAtty. said id someone came for a permit the Town would have to deal with it as it sits right now in our code…after Comm. Vincent said we don’t have anything in place right now if someone wanted one… The Mayor stated that the consensus was to have a workshop on kite surfing …fishing …skim-boarding, item k. …watercraft…expanding it..every activity… The TM asked about beach furniture and the Mayor said recreational..Comm. Vincent asked if it was revenue driven…The Mayor stated staff understood it was item a. and k. for a Jan. workshop… Not done yet… Comm. Clottey asked about if a parent wanted to teach their child how to surf they cannot… The TAtty. said this workshop was for commercial…and the parent-child teaching was recreational… Comm. Sasser said there was consensus on this he had a few call of people saying their grandchildren were in danger…and he wanted BSO to regulate it before Jan…. The Mayor responded BSO and staff understand the enforcement…The TM summed it all up …But that did not stop further comment from Comm. Clottey to state someone who does not know what they are doing can hurt someone while kite surfing…

BC- Here’s how this item should have gone…  VM Dodd makes the summary… a show of hands yea or nay should be called by the Mayor or the VM who put the item on… A show of hands for consensus should only bring forth some “friendly additions” to broaden the scope of the workshop…Any detailed questions or specifics on an item not being addressed until Jan. should be submitted to staff from the Commissioners to include in backup for Jan…. End of discussion…move on…3-7 minutes tops…

The next item was choosing a chairperson for July 4ht and Easter in 2011… The Mayor offered to do the 4th once again wanting to get some things she did not get done the way she wanted right…VM Dodd said he was going to take it (he did it in 2008 w/ Comm. Clottey)…The Mayor said she would back off and take Easter unless some one else wanted it…no takers … Comm. Vincent did last Easter and Comm. Sasser is chairing Halloween this coming Sunday…(the early peek at some of the Jarvis Hall decorations via the feed for this meeting showed quite a spectacular backdrop awaits those who come to participate!)… Comm. Sasser added he wanted to make sure they followed through on the TM’s suggestion for a staff person to be involved in the events… The TM stated it was in the budget but not decided upon as there was some opposition …The consensus was to go with the staff involvement already  budgeted for …speaking of that…no update on the BSO investigation in to the MIA decorations …Hmmm)…

Item c. was VM Dodd’s having to do with recycling… He began by showing two photos he took…

He stated he had the two photographs and asked what’s wrong with this picture…He showed that in front of Oriana (1st pic)…they were still not single stream although the Town had already gone single stream…. In the 2nd pic he showed his house…two mike crates and a trash bin full of garden refuse. He said we need to give the residents proper recycle carts…. A quick count of Imperial and Codrington homes revealed 15 out of 43 homes don’t bother to recycle…. Instead of the current 75% trash 25% recycle we need to be 75% recycle and 25% trash by the year 2020. For every ton of trash that hits the landfill we currently pay $100.00 for every ton of recyclable the rate is $50.00 so for every ton we can re-direct the saving is $150.00dollars. He said he did his  own research and today all he was asking fo a full commitment from this commission to embrace recycling. He looked at what Hollywood and Cooper city are doing and the differences. He met with a top representative from another trash contractor instead of meeting with Choice. He met with Wastepro another hauler who incidentally bid on the town’s last RFP. He found that Wastepro in conjunction with Recyclebank increased Hollywood’s recycling tonnage by 127% through the points system rewarding individual homeowners for the weight they recycle. If you only reward everyone equally for the total tonnage split between all those who put out a cart the approximate increase is only 30% whereas if individuals receive the credit the totals increase to 127%.  The “scheme” is very simple…. the recycle cart has a bar code, the truck has the ability to weigh the recyclables. The pick-up is fed to a computer, downloaded to a customer’s individual account and the customer gets reward points redeemable at the local supermarket for goods.
There are many variables and since we only have a short time left on our current contract He was seeking a commitment to allow the manager to investigate the variables since the prices per ton for trash and recyclable can change, the cost of the recyclebank points system, the cost of updating the trucks to weigh the pick-up, the cost of the bins and bar codes will all have an impact. It may be that now is the time to re-specify through an RFP exactly what we want from our trash company to avoid having to renegotiate mid contract….Comm Clottey said she too had done research on her own and in news reports…and she said if you looked at VM Dodd’s photo of his garbage he had yard waste which comprises 30% of the garbage and is not just considered trash…VM Dodd stated that he was told yard waste is not legally allowed in a landfill and that by 2020 we may need 3 containers…but he didn’t want to go there!…He went on to speak of needing a consensus from the Commission for a commitment because there will be a cost involved for the toters ..and time for staff to do a lot of work with Choice who would like to take this over if the terms are correct…that we need to be prepared or if there is no consensus we will be forced to do it in 2020… Comm. Clottey asked can we separate the yard waste…VM Dodd stated Ft.Laud. already does with a separate pickup for it…going on to add some changes may need to come with pickups perhaps 1 day garbage/ one day recycle and a separate day yard waste…Comm. Clottey stated residents would like this it would be nicer and easier for them… Comm. Sasser jested he hated to interrupt especially when Comm. Clottey and the VM were agreeing stating do we want to commit ourselves to recycling is the question the VM is asking for consensus for…Comm. Vincent joked and asked if he could redeem his points in his S & H book…VM Dodd stated he would be surprised how the points could be used locally and otherwise and explained how the recycle company negotiated …He went on to disucss the prior problems with the current contract and the recycling due to a poor RFP …Comm Sasser said it was a yes for him to proceed…The Mayor thanked VM Dodd added it appeared the Comm. was buying into the recycling which was an unfunded mandate that would cost the consumers  and asked the TM if she had direction…TM Hoffmann said she did…

BC- Have to take issue with this one… I’m ok with looking into it…seeing about the bar code..and the single stream point system if the costs don’t outweigh the benefit…But do not believe owners should be penalized if they do not participate in the program… Also  there need to be real numbers provided on how many houses will participate and desire a separated pickup day plan…due to how many actually have yard waste pickup up or have their gardener take it …paying for the service already…

Item d. on the designated use for liens and forfeitures was a little disjointed with the VM who put it on veering off his original intention as this writer understood it at the previous Comm.mtg… He stated he wanted the bank to have an advert on some item such as an atv to show their funds went towards that item…The Mayor was also somewhat confused stating she thought he wanted it for a designated item… something in the community… Comm. Vincent asked if this was done in other cities… The TM said the revenues usually go in the general fund …she said they would have to identify their costs…and use this as an incentive…she like the idea …of using it for the community as the Mayor put forth…Comm. Vincent asked further about the percentages to reimburse the Town and going into a program as  suggested..The TM added this was a non-reliable fund …so to put it into special projects was good…Comm. Clottey stated she did not like the fact the bank got an 80% break and did not want to make them look good by having an advert for the 20% they did pay…she did like the idea in general though ..(the Mayor’s idea)… Comm. Sasser stated he had a problem with restricting funds  and would have to see the language first… Comm. Vincent said he would have to look back at the historical funds (huh?…this is the first such monies from liens/forfeitures this Comm. passed!)… He stated there would be a shortfall when this petered out… The Mayor stated this could be incentives for a sustainable LBTS (GREEN)…and spoke of Parkland …Comm. Clottey countered the Mayor stating we do don’t have a lot of this type of money due to few foreclosures unlike Parkland…stating we shouldn’t make solid ideas (Huh?)… Comm. Vincent countered Clottey stating we’re just looking at it…Comm. Sasser said we let the bank off too easy and asked how much the bank is re-investing in the town…Comm. Vincent said he respectfully disagreed with Comm. Sasser the banks were not at fault…they just got stuck with these houses …The Mayor chimed in to say they should just let this one go…that there was no strong consensus …VM Dodd said then the money will go into the general fund and get lost..Comm. Sasser again stated he was for looking into it and seeing the restrictive language…The TM said she thought it was a great idea but her concern is the need to prioritize ..if there was not full support she agreed with the Mayor put this one aside…Comms. Vincent/Clottey and Sasser said it was not a top priority…

The went on to the next item (f.) dealing with the business uses Ord. 2010-15…that passed on 1st reading at the Oct. Comm.Mtg…This one really did not go well in this writer’s opinion… The Commission and the P & Z Board had made it known at their previous meetings they were looking to broaden the scope of allowable businesses to do away with the need for new business to go through a lengthy process in order to set up shop in town…That took a slight turn after 1st reading…and continued to turn even farther away from the original intent this evening… Comm. Clottey had asked previously to offer up what was not allowed instead of what was…and the TAtty. had spoken of allowing for similar usage to be added in to allow for staff and/or Comm. to approve a wider range of businesses bypassing the lengthy process in place at the present time… Consultant Walter Keller came forth to describe what he had done with the changes including how he came up with the list when asked by the mayor…He looked at surrounding towns such as Ft. Laud/ Delray …and 3 others…in Broward and Palm Beach County….he left out big impact uses (Walmart/ HomeDepot type businesses) …added as many possible uses and if any had an impact they would fall under conditional uses …he made the uses as wide as possible..left in the existing uses..He stated he did not see a big difference between our business areas but kept them as they have been set up this way for so long…The Mayor asked about pain clinics and the TAtty. said that was already in the ordinance stating where it was…The TM asked if there were any concerns to take anything out… Comm. Sasser said automotive supply…Comm. Sasser asked how that would impact the existing service station in town…The TAtty. asked Mr. Keller if that was considered non-conforming…He stated it was grandfathered in… and could be a possible conditional use…The TAtty. stated they did not address conditional use in the ordinance…no direction was given in that area ( here again is an ordinance that did not cover everything…will it need another Notice of Intent …back to P & Z for cond. use businesses in the future?)…Comm. Vincent went further with this line of questioning asking if Bennett auto supply wanted to go into the service station as a satellite store would it be allowed…The TAtty. stated they did not want to micro-manage …Comm Sasser spoke about a cigar store stating we have one in town (didn’t it leave?) …He was concerned about head shops…adding also electric supply stores…flooring stores and funeral homes in the business district… Comm. Vincent asked about drive-thru stores and asked if Burger King now gone was the only one… Director Bowman informed him Dr. G’s has a drive- thru …Comm. Sasser brought up his items again and the TAtty. said they were allowed under general use…Walter Keller said there were some duplications with existing allowable usage and reiterated he was making it as broad as possible…The Mayor spoke of interior design …which has flooring…electrical supply…and it needed to be defined carefully…The TM said electrical supply doesn’t fit in LBTS…asking if we needed it in our boundaries for residents…Comm. Vincent asked if there was a list of deletions …Mr. Keller said no..the P & Z wanted to leave a broad list..not impact the town… The Mayor said they wanted to encourage business…and needed to be careful on this…Comm. Clottey asked a “more basic question”…asking about a Walmart coming in…and wanting to keep stores more boutique…The TAtty. and Mr. Keller responded there is not property that could be conducive to a store like that…It would not be viable for the company with the boundaries (ocean)…The Mayor the agreed with Comm. Sasser no elec. supply or flooring stores…VM Dodd asked about no consignment stores…The TAtty. said that is an open category and spoke of higher end shops in Boca Raton (as well as in Ft. Laud…definitely boutique stores!)…Walter Keller concurred stating higher rents would be the impetus for higher end consignment as well as charity consignment such as Hospice… The TM said she had seen many “smaller scuzzy” consignment places… Waleter Keller asked about taking out funeral homes…VM Dodd said they always could have a special application for taking something on its merit…Walter concurred stating that would be a conditional use..The TAtty. again stated they did not address whether to pursue conditional use (UGH!)… Comm. Sasser said no head shops… Comm. Vincent said we already have stores selling some of that… The TAtty. started this was for new businesses …again speaking of similar uses used in some cities for a judgment call for staff to make……asking if they wanted to add that…The Mayor said it would have to come to the Commission as well and that it offered some flexibility…with guidelines…Comm. Sasser added that one more business he waffled on was coin operated laundries…knowing we have one in  town and the hotels benefit from it…The Mayor said many residents do as ell due to older buildings without laundry in units…Comm.Clottey felt the need to inform him she used the coin laundry for her comforters that do not fit in her washer (Really..she needed to include this?)… Comm. Vincent said there was a viable need after Comm. Vincent asked about it in the future as automotive parts were not needed in the future use going forward… The Mayor stated no paint and wallpaper…radio repair…who repairs radios she asked and the TAtty. again brought up similarities…judgment…coming to staff/Comm….The TM said it could be changed to electronic …not specific…The TM then went over the above list of businesses no longer allowed in town from the discussion..No consignment shops/elec. supply/paint-wallpaper & flooring/auto supply/funeral home/head shops and make radio …electronic store…Comm. Vincent said marine parts stays…It will go to 2nd reading this way…

BC- I cannot disagree more with the Commission on this item…I agree with the TAtty. and Walter Keller and P & Z… This writer would keep the broadest allowable businesses… Use the still intact B1 & B1A designated areas and allow the businesses just taken away to be west of A1A…An elec. supply can also be a lighting store… What would be so wrong if near the hardware  store there were store with lighting/elec. supply..wallpaper-paint & flooring… Consignment as stated above a shop like Worth Repeating would be a big plus in LBTS… Funeral Homes..who would know the difference between a church or a Funeral Home in that same spot… and Head shops…a code that does not allow for selling drug paraphernalia  in Town if it is not already on the books…Right now the west end is hurting with closed business and these restrictions until or unless the strip buildings are sold and moved then forward on the lots will further impede the owners … Bad move in my opinion…and to make so the businesses need to come for any consideration ….puts us right back to square one…

The Commission took a break…

When they returned they picked up item g. sustainable environmental committee put on by the Mayor…She stated this had come before the prior Comm. and had no traction..she felt it was important to work towards a committee … and pointed out she had used the condo in the backup as an example…Comm. Clottey spoke to the Mayor saying before she set up a committee she needed to come up with a description of what was expected ..The Mayor responded that staff has a lot right now…and recycling was a good start on this front..she would put this on the back-burner… and was happy the Commission was showing a commitment to the environment …

The next tow items were put on by the Mayor as well and dealt with resolutions…h. was the oil drilling in Fl waters… and she stated she did not ant to move it forward without knowing if the Comm. stood behind it…or if LBTS needed to do more with our own resolution..(GOD NO!) … Comm. Clottey asked if it wasn’t enough to state we supported Broward League of Cities (who were behind the reso)…Comm. Vincnet stated he did not know if he opposed it..it needed a lot of discussion/questions…(Really isn’t that what he should have researched before the meeting?)… Comm. Sasser said drop it…he understood the political climate..the oil disaster etc…but was not willing to sign off on the whereas portions pointing out that they were not shown to be accurate with data to support them …VM Dodd agreed with Comm. Sasser and spoke of this being the NIMBY approach…touching on nuclear energy…and he didn’t want to put his head in the sand ..and would not want to support it… The Mayor said drop it…

BC- who knew?…NICE!…

Item i. was the childhood obesity resolution which while being benign as was stated by Comm. Sasser stated it doesn’t commit us …and he supports the idea… healthy kids…schools…parents…etc… He asked the TAtty if the town had any liability for supporting it ..she responded no…Comm. Vincent asked if they supported this what about another Burger King coming in…The Mayor said this was a warm and fuzzy.. The TM said it will be put on the agenda…

BC- No more..please…warm and fuzzy cost staff time/Comm. time… for what was not needed in the first place …

Item j. was a return item for the Vice mayor explaining the Entertainment District downtown in the square…the history of it not going forward with the last Commission and with a new Comm…the changes being made in out town and the BSO being on board was there consensus to go forward on this again… Comm. Clottey said this issue needed to be dealt with in a workshop open to the public to ask the residents what they think about it …Comm Vincent said he needed a definition of open container…carrying glass rather than plastic…”a glass was a weapon” in his mind ..and with bare feet…(Unbelievable!)…Comm. Sasser said it had merit to move forward…and agreed on a workshop…should be part of the strategy …what boundaries…extended …and does it help the hotels… The Mayor brought up extending the music on Fri/Sat an extra half hour now that the venues have proven to be reliable and would want that to be part of the workshop as well….Comm. Sasser said set the first meeting…The TM asked on the strategic plan…inclusive was his reply… The TM said she had an issue with the idea of an Entertainment District citing her time in Ft. Lauderdale young people not buying liquor from establishments bust getting it from their trunks…and wearing headgear with tubes ..there was a downside that could hurt businesses… Comm. Sasser said more than alcohol …broader…The Mayor added to include the time of events being extended ..VM Dodd responded it worked well in other towns…and he was limiting it ti the downtown area…(where it is a given as he earlier stated people move from place to place with drinks …and the detail police look the other way…No weapon charges ever came to light that we are aware of in the process)…Comm. Sasser said if they are already doing it why do an Entertainment District?… The Mayor said it should be under the Master Plan… No directive was given on when this would proceed…

On to the next item which was the Town Atty. services agreement…retainer or stay on hourly rate as contracted by the former TM/Comm. in 2008…The Mayor who originally put this on at a Comm Mtg. asked if there were any questions…The TAtty. said she and the TM had met and worked out some proposed changes…forgoing the annual 5% increase for fiscal year 2010/11 & 2011/12…as well as reducing some fees…The TM agreed and stated we are in flux …and we could revisit this in 6 months or so…The Mayor said we have no track record with the TAtty. (Huh?)…and that we should follow staff recommendations… VM Dodd said fine…as long as the TAtty. did not go ahead with ordinances without the Commissions consensus…Comm. Sasser added we are budgeted $70,000 less than last year and he wanted to know if we get anywhere near that amount…The TM said they could come back in 3-4 months to say they are over if that happens..and added she and the TAtty. are working on ways to control costs…

The next items addressed the parking Mi/Mii/Miii The Mayor asked Development Dir. Jeff Bowman if he had something ot say or was there to answer questions…he said to answer questions…She then turned it over to Comm. Sasser whose item came after Bowman’s same topic…Comm. Sasser wanted the parking to go back to P & Z to address… Dir. Bowman chimed in that the item he had on (containing Consultant Walter Keller’s options) needed to go to P & Z and needed the input from the Comm. beforehand… Comm. Sasser asked Mr. Keller to explain the shared use parking…Walter Keller used the example of a church and an office sharing parking due to non-conflicting usage of the spaces for the obvious reasons… He added such usage would come to the Tow as it was a developmental agreement that needed to be signed off on and approved… Comm. Sasser asked about SunTrust and if that was a shared use…Mr.Keller answered SunTrust would fall under private-public using their spaces for public parking in off hours… a conditional use…Comm. Vincent could not help himself as he dumbed down to explain the obvious split of usage for the church and the office… (UGH!)… He went on to ask what happens if the office moves out…The TM said it was a legally binding agreement and the remaining would have to find other parking …The Mayor brought up Delray as the TM had and said they had been successful and we could take it even further…with alternative measures for parking… Comm. Sasser again asked for this to go to P & Z with the direction to not limit themselves rto what they received …The Mayor said the staff could move forward with this and the P & Z should think outside the box… Miii was Comm. Vincent and this one really frosts this writer…shades of the past Commission…a reversal on parking yet again… To make parking places free by the municipal park…to allow residents free parking and not hold them to getting a residential permit  ($50)… This one brought up By Comm. Vincent again put him at odds with knowing the past…He said this was forcing the parents to get permits…it made common sense to have designated parking for the park… Comm. Clottey wanted to know the hours for free parking…Comm. Vincent said he worked with Asst.TM Bentley and staff would monitor this…The Mayor spoke of the abuse in the past of beach parking… Comm. Vincent was indignant stating we are punishing our residents who use the park…it is our only park (NO it’s not!)… They had it and it was taken out…(for good reason!)… Comm. Clottey asked how we were going to identify if it was in-town/out-of-town people parking…Asst. TM Bentley said there would be no distinction…The Mayor asked how many spots… 6?… VM Dodd asked for park use only and the time limit…Bud answered he thought code had a time limit in place but would look to verify… Comm. Sasser asked if this was the dropping kids off for school issue or residents who don’t have residential permits…and the original problem comes back …Asst. TM said Comm. Sasser’s point was well taken and perhaps the ree parking would be better on the west side of park…Comm. Vincent said the problem doesn’t exist ..yet… (Again, he neglects the long history of problems with this…staff monitoring…tennis parking…non-residents etc… The Mayor thanked Comm. Vincent…

BC- This on will be back again…

The strategic plan…item n. put on by the Town Manager …The TM said there were really two plans …the Master Plan which does not address environmental/neighborhood issues/governmental/cost of public safety….She suggested they address this simultaneously and merge the MPSC with 2-3 community sessions that include residents/businesses and visitors…all  involved in the major components…She said she worked with the MPSC and all went well …she will continue it monthly…maybe more …the that melds into a strategic plan …more meetings with the public… It’s all doable in a 6 month time-frame… She said the public meeting could be in Dec…with 2 in Jan… and still meet with MPSC … She rethought her offer to bring speakers to the MPSC and now wants them to come to the public meetings…The speakers would offer up ideas that worked throughout the country …for good planning … Comm. Clottey wanted the meeting pushed back to Jan. to allow for season people and the holidays but liked the overall plan… The TM said the meetings held at different times were for different groups…you could attend all but the speakers from the audience should be different for different input… Comm. Clottey asked about the speakers and the TM clarified those would be at different meetings…Comm. Vincent agreed with Comm. Clottey for Jan …stating Dec. would produce less participation … Vice Mayor Dodd congratulated the TM on her MPSC presentation and said she had his full support and he was looking forward to the speakers…Comm. Sasser said he hated to wait for anything …and what could they do in the meantime…this was the most important thing…the strategy…sitting down with the Commission and the TM just as MPSC did… The Mayor used her catch phrase of the night stating the Commission was “buying in” …that they needed to sell it to the residents for them to support this …support from residents and businesses … Comm. Clottey said in following up on what the Mayor said that the last time they supported MPSC (El Mar Mc-Medians..prev. posts)…the residents came back in Jan. and all hell broke loose…people don’t like being surprised… Comm. Vincent said we needed Nov./Dec. to get the “key components” together …the right speakers…The Mayor said we are done with the budget …we are not delaying anything …to go out to the community ..this was the framework…for involvement…The TM said she would work with MPSC next month and in Dec….make recommendations to the Commission…They would “massage it” then it would go to the community…at a higher level of strategic planning.. Comm. Sasser clearly not “buying in to” the delay or the dancing around of not setting dates certain asked again for staff to set those dates ..The Mayor said he wanted them scheduled… Comm. Clottey said it would take more than one such meeting…The Mayor said they could meet individually with the TM…Comm. Sasser was not “buying into” that either saying it needed to be as a group… The TM said she would have one more meeting with the MPSC and the Mayor added the Commission would have one soon after…Comm. Clottey said there were times she could not meet due to other obligations (holidays)… Comm. Sasser said let’s get these “pet projects” out of the way…The TM said they need to weed through what is critical and what can wait….The Mayor then spoke about business vs. government and how the wheels move… Comm. Vincent sounding very condescending stated he understood and respected Comm. Sasser’s passion but there was no sense of urgency…they needed to handle this in the right way without rushing in (HUH?)…. VM Dodd said until we have sufficient meat …let Connie give us the dates…Comm. Vincent again said to Comm. Sasser I don’t want to undermine your passion….Comm. Sasser said how do you prioritize?.. The TM the said they needed a separate meeting to do just that and she wanted to do that in Nov….Comm. Clottey spoke about private business taking retreats to do this and they were quite beneficial…this would be with cameras on to “get a buy in from people”..(again, UGH!)… The Mayor said they had great ideas from everyone…a workshop in Nov…. to let Connie know when they were unavailable…

BC—Here we go…my way of doing this… just as we ran a campaign work backwards from the date of completion…(6 mos.)… and set dates …just as were set for mailings…meetings…strategic and going out to campaign…Have a plan of what topics will be addressed when and where in advance of the meeting times from the beginning ,.. Give homework for preparation ahead of time to both the MPSC and the Comm…. Outline and give backup on speakers ahead of slated meetings… The TM should meet with the Chair of the MPSC to make the agendas up for each meeting with the only certain topics covered … Have MPSC members hold off on their own revisions until perhaps 1 or 2 meetings are set for the members to put forward their ideas after the TM has gone through her complete summary.. Then have the MPSC come to a consensus on all reviewed plans to put forth to the Commission… Why just have town residents and businesses come to Jarvis Hall…why not break down the condos/ neighborhood associations…door-to-door….Women’s organizations etc…….and the Chamber….have the Commission go to visit them and present the vision just as they all did during the campaign… Advertise on a board in the Town’s parking lots..and elsewhere with the meetings/dates …and a goal time for completion as well as comprehensive updates in Town Topics …online and in the local paper… It worked well two times…and it will do the same for this major issue that demands the same kind of attention to guarantee success…

The last item on the agenda was an update by Comm. Sasser on Choice and he quickly stated they had drawn a line in the sand to come to an agreement in 30 days …he felt it would offer the residents a choice…while allowing Choice to limit bulk and cover themselves a little more with how many time a cart would be delivered to a home and the charges for that… The TAtty. said they agreed on principal to have a potential solution…Comm. Sasser said the important issues need to be worked out… The Mayor thanked him…Bud and Connie as well as the TAtty…

The Tm said she had 3 items of additional Town business… wanting consensus on removing the pool at the public safety building …stating she had 3 bids…she had consensus …but was not asked and did not provide the cost involved… Item 2 was the Coastal partnership which she stated was a grant she wanted to pursue for $14,500 to offset maintenance on the Coral Reef Project as well as signage if the project proceeded…She needed approval due to time constraints and timing of the next Comm. mtg…she received it…and the 3rd item was a conflict for an approved sweet 16 party and the first performing arts production…the sweet 16 graciously moved to the following week…The Mayor/Comm. Sasser both asked for something  special from the Town to say thanks for being so agreeable… Comm. Sasser did asked about the Global Reef Project update… Little came forth of any difference from the last update…They have a pro-bono atty. who is digging his heels…The hope is for this to be pushed along in time for the next meeting in Nov…and it might require a special meeting…

BC- anymore of this…time to go to Ft. Lauderdale for visit to their process…and take this group to task for the contract that is already breached…

VM Dodd did want to add one item to see if there was consensus …he was still feeling stung by the vote not to repay the LETF funds at the last Comm. Mtg…and said so…He asked the Commission to consider using the same amount to purchase the cameras that can zone in on license plates at approx. $20,000 each… He wanted to know if he had sufficient support to put it on the agenda…

BC- Here again was a simple yea or nay…with any friendly amendments to add …That did not happen…yet again….

Comm. Vincent said he voted against the return of the funds…he said it was not good timing…not in the budget…and not a priority on either side…not  a high priority at this time…(free parking at the municipal park is though …Hmmm.)…. The VM wasn’t having any and said so he should sit on it for 12 months and see what happens…He stated they could pay for the cameras…and that again VFD/AMR did not pay for their renovations….Comm. Clottey said BSO did not either it was paid by the LETF funds…Scott Gooding was for using those funds and the TAtty. said it was okay…and she thought BSO had enough in the account to buy the cameras… VM Dodd answered they did not…Comm. Clottey said they should soon due to recent actions … The Mayor said maybe they could put the lien money towards it?… Comm. Sasser said he was the 3rd vote against the LETF funds being reimbursed and he said he was conceptually ok with it …needing more info…The TM stated she spoke to the BSO Chief 3-4 weeks ago and they were to come back with the LETF appropriations…VM Dodd spoke of his conversations with BSO and the infrastructure costs (Chief Llerena spoke to this on Oct. 12th)…and again the amount for such cameras…Comm. Clottey said they should find out how much they will need first from the Town… Comm. Sasser again said he was conceptually ok with it …and the Mayor added if we can afford it… With that they adjourned…

Backup and archived video of meeting on Town website… http://www.lauderdalebythesea-fl.gov/

Master Plan Steering Committee meets on Nov.16th 7 pm…Planning & Zoning Nov. 17th at 6:30 pm…both are open to public/televised on Ch. 78 and live-streamed on Town website…Public comment is allowed at both…

more to come…..

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